Buddhist AA/NA

topic posted Wed, December 28, 2005 - 4:40 PM by  anastajah
Here are some fundamental characteristics of human development that lead to resilience, vitality, inner stability, and peace of mind:

We move from reliance on external authority to an internal center of resonance & wisdom based on observation, experimentation, and experience.
We bring fascination, curiosity, and interest to all aspects of our lives & to relationships. We are comfortable with differences, and are able to reflect on our own feelings, thoughts, and emotional reactions.
We take personal responsibility for our internal experience - we realize we create our own feelings of anger, contempt, and judgments with our demands that situations & people be different than they are. We cease blaming or making up excuses & reasons for our problems.
We see situations & people as they truly are & make our decisions based on current reality, not our hopes that people will change.
We become increasingly able to attune & resonate with our internal world - including our thoughts, feelings, and emotions. This ability to go deeply within ourselves decreases our need for either disassociation or external stimulation to relieve emptiness & boredom.
We realize that we are not our "minds," we are not all the teachings that have been put there. We exist beyond these teaching as essence.
We develop the will to do the things we know will help us feel stronger, healthier, more alive, and connected to others.
We develop the ability to self-soothe & calm ourselves when we are alone or with other people.
Our living becomes more congruent with our beliefs.
Our relationships become more authentic, trusting, open, and valued.
We are able to give & receive care, friendship, and support.
We accept the ever-changing nature of all life. The challenge of empowerment.
We affirm we have the power to take charge of our lives & stop being dependent on substances or other people for our self-esteem & security.
Alternative: We admit we were out of control with/powerless over _________ yet have the power to take charge of our lives & stop being dependent on substances or other people for our self-esteem & security.
We come to believe that we have the ability to develop our inner resources through a process of learning, exploration, daily practice, diligence, self reflection, and supportive relationships with others. (This is a new version of this step)
We make a decision to become our authentic selves & trust in the healing power of the truth.
We examine our beliefs, addictions, and dependent behavior in the context of living in a hierarchal, patriarchal culture.
We share with another person all the things inside of us for which we feel shame & guilt.
We affirm & enjoy our strengths, talents, and creativity.
We become willing to let go of guilt, shame, and any behavior that keeps us from accepting ourselves & others.
We make a list of people we have harmed & people who have harmed us, and take steps to clear out negative feelings by making amends & sharing our grievances in a respectful way.
We express love & gratitude to others, and increasingly appreciate the wonder of life & the blessings we do have.
We continue to trust our reality & daily affirm that we see what we see, we know what we know & we feel what we feel.
We promptly acknowledge mistakes & make amends when appropriate, but we do not say we are sorry for things we have not done & we do not cover up, analyze, or take responsibility for the shortcomings of others.
We seek out situations, jobs, and people who affirm our intelligence, perceptions, and self-worth & avoid situations or people who are hurtful, harmful, or demeaning to us.
We take steps to heal our physical bodies, organize our lives, reduce stress, and have fun.
We seek to find our inward calling, and develop the will & wisdom to follow it.
We accept that change, loss, death, and re-birth are part of the natural flow of life.
We grow in awareness that we are interrelated with all living things, and we contribute to restoring peace & balance on the planet.
This is active meditation, not medication with endless meetings for life that are depressing and disempowering. Without knowing this particular technique, I started to do something similar. Then, when I went to AA just for fun, I was so sad to see that people had to admit to being powerless to get to the first step. I never took that 1st step, I ran! I dosed myself with nutrition, love, silence, self sourcing. I quit sugar, caffeine, smoking all with ease. Not to mention my unmentionable ellicit illegal drug taking for like 16 years! And alcohol. I later found this, which is a more empowering 12 step for Buddhists.
BODHI'S BUDDHIST NON-THEISTIC 12 STEPS:

1. We admitted our addictive craving over alcohol, and recognised its consequences in our lives.
2. Came to believe that a power other than self could restore us to wholeness.
3. Made a decision to go for refuge to this other power as we understood it.
4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5. Admitted to ourselves and another human being the exact moral nature of our past.
6. Became entirely ready to work at transforming ourselves.
7. With the assistance of others and our own firm resolve, we transformed unskilful aspects of ourselves and cultivated positive ones.
8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed.
9. Made direct amends to such people where possible, except when to do so would injure them or others. In addition, made a conscientious effort to forgive all those who harmed us.
10. Continue to maintain awareness of our actions and motives, and when we acted unskilfuly promptly admitted it.
11. Engaged through the practise of meditation to improve our conscious contact with our true selves, and seeking that beyond self. Also used prayer as a means to cultivate postive attitudes and states of mind.
12. Having gained spiritual insight as a result of these steps, we practise these principles in all areas of our lives, and make this message available to others in need of recovery\


The 12 Steps of Liberation
>>>>>Said another way:

1. The truth of suffering. We experienced the truth of our addictions – our lives
were unmanageable suffering.

2. The truth of the origin of suffering. We admit that we craved for and grasped
onto addictions as our refuge.

3. The truth of the end of suffering. We came to see that complete cessation of
craving and clinging at addictions is necessary.

4. The truth of the path. We made a decision to follow the way of liberation and
to take refuge in our wakefulness, our truth, and our fellowship.

5. Right view. We made a searching and fearless review of our life. We are
willing to acknowledge and proclaim our truth to ourselves, another human
being and the community.

6. Right thought. We are mindful that we create the causes for suffering and
liberation. Our goodness is indestructible.

7. Right speech. We purify, confess and ask for forgiveness straightforwardly
and without judgment. We are willing to forgive others.

8. Right action. We make a list of all persons we harm and are willing and able
to actively make amends to them all, unless to do so would be harmful.

9. Right livelihood. We simplify our lives, realizing we are all interconnected.
We select a vocation that supports our recovery.

10. Right effort. We realize that continuing to follow this path, no matter what, is
joyful effort.

11. Right mindfulness. Through prayer, meditation and action we will follow the
path of kindness, being mindful moment by moment.

12. Right concentration. Open to the spirit of awakening as a result of these steps,
we will carry this message to all people suffering with addictions.

We move from reliance on external authority to an internal center of resonance & wisdom based on observation, experimentation, and experience.
We bring fascination, curiosity, and interest to all aspects of our lives & to relationships. We are comfortable with differences, and are able to reflect on our own feelings, thoughts, and emotional reactions.
We take personal responsibility for our internal experience - we realize we create our own feelings of anger, contempt, and judgments with our demands that situations & people be different than they are. We cease blaming or making up excuses & reasons for our problems.
We see situations & people as they truly are & make our decisions based on current reality, not our hopes that people will change.
We become increasingly able to attune & resonate with our internal world - including our thoughts, feelings, and emotions. This ability to go deeply within ourselves decreases our need for either disassociation or external stimulation to relieve emptiness & boredom.
We realize that we are not our "minds," we are not all the teachings that have been put there. We exist beyond these teaching as essence.
We develop the will to do the things we know will help us feel stronger, healthier, more alive, and connected to others.
We develop the ability to self-soothe & calm ourselves when we are alone or with other people.
Our living becomes more congruent with our beliefs.
Our relationships become more authentic, trusting, open, and valued.
We are able to give & receive care, friendship, and support.
We accept the ever-changing nature of all life. The challenge of empowerment.

And I also like the Native medicine wheel way. That really puts it into perspective! I think that having these substance abuse problems actually enhanced my life.
  • Re: Buddhist AA/NA

    Sun, February 5, 2006 - 7:59 PM
    i hope to soon have time to read and digest this, being atleast part practicing buddhist,
    i'm finally starting to reconcile buddhism and recovery, it's been difficult, but i guess recovery is just that way
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    Re: Buddhist AA/NA

    Sun, February 5, 2006 - 9:13 PM
    Thank Anastajah for sharing! The Judeo-Christian flavor of the AA/NA steps have always been a bitter pill for me to swallow. These words resonate much more with me and my life view. It would have been nice to have this available when I got clean 18 years ago, but it is just as nice to have it available now. Are there books with this type of material that you could recommend?
    • Re: Buddhist AA/NA

      Thu, December 28, 2006 - 11:05 PM
      Although I think these non-God flavored, generic 12 steps may be helpful at some level, they ARE NOT the true 12 steps of AA that millions have found saved their lives for 71 years. It scares me that a potential newcommer to sobriety may interpret this "Alternative 12 step program", as being the real program of AA as set down in the Big Book. Please be aware that by endorsing this alternative, you may just be sending someone to their death from alcoholism.
      • Re: Buddhist AA/NA

        Thu, December 28, 2006 - 11:56 PM
        so many roads..........

        AA is the grand daddy w/ it's roots clearly planted in the bible. it has morphed over the yrs. into a program that many people can find useful. the 12 step model is a design for living no matter how you word it, the outcome is the same.
        i like AA for it's history, accessibility and longevity. i am able to have a higher power without prejudice or scrutiny. the historical context of AA is fascinating as those early pioneers didn't have steps or a book. they had each other. and a primary purpose to stay sober via service to others. that hasn't changed.
      • Re: Buddhist AA/NA

        Tue, January 2, 2007 - 8:22 AM
        Good point, Steve.

        I've been clean and sober (in AA) for 14 years and have been practicing Buddhism for 5. I'd like to weigh in with my comments as I have some experience with both. I deeply admire Anastasia's conviction and wish no harm to her, however I feel the need caution folks with regards to AA and Buddhism.

        I'm sure Anastasia has a good motivation for trying to merge Buddhism and the AA 12 steps but, in the end, I feel it is a dangerous and irrisponsible to the desparate alcoholic who truely needs help. AA provides that help to 2+ million people world-wide- it has a proven track record of success in getting folks unhooked from a wide manner of addictions, especially alcohol, and living happy, fruitful and productive lives.

        Anastasia is not alone in her attempts to coopt the 12 steps. Christians have been trying for years to take ownership of the 12 steps - primarially due to AA's origins in the protestant Oxford group of the 1930's. But the AA's of that day separated themselves from the Christian movements because so many of the members were not Christians. They wanted to appeal to anyone. As a result, we speak in a general way about spiritual matters and do not get embroiled in religious debate.

        AA does not require one to beleive in the God of the bible/torah/koran. We are free to choose our own concept of a higher power. For many members, God stands for Group-Of-Drunks or Good-Orderly-Direction. AA very specifically maintains its independance of all outside organizations including religious, corporate and government. It takes no stand and has no opinion on outside issues. If you want what they have then you are free to take it. If not, you are free to try some other method, like Anastasia has.

        Many alcoholics would agree that the 12-steps have been watered down by well meaning people like Anastasia. We frequently get this from the medical, phychological, and spiritial communities: they see the success that AA has with the steps and try to integrate them into their practices when working with adicts and alcoholics. Typically they leave out the God part - and usually have marginal success. People who encounter these programs are sent to a few AA/NA meeting then are run through the treatment center's 12-step program, or an out-patient program sponsered by some other agency. They think they've tried AA and the steps for real - but this isn't so. When they relapse, they claim that the steps don't work. Its not suprising that AA gets a bad name. Bin-there-done-that-didn't-work.

        When taking the steps, most AA's agree that a sponsor is essentail. A sponsor is someone who has been through the steps and has had some form of spiritual awakening. Don't confuse this with the Buddha's enlightenment - its far from that. What usually happens with a spiritual awakening is one begins to feel there is a power greater than themselves working for them in their lives. The sponsor's role is to take you through the steps, and to guide you on your spiritual journey. Taking the steps without a sponsor is like practicing the Dharma without a teacher. But AA's don't have the luxery of 5-10 years to find a teacher. They usually get into the steps within a matter of months. The urgency is real.

        I embraced Buddhism when I was 9 years sober and have been learning and practicing since. When I was new to Buddhism, I kept seeing similarities between it and AA and attempted to integrate the two in in my life as one, much like Anastasia - and I failed miserably. Since then, I have learned to keep them separate as they nurture different parts of my soul. I practice AA as it is and Buddhism as it is. Also, my relationship with my Higher Power is personal and I choose not to share it here - trying to share in a general way.

        Lets Keep-It-Simple. We do not need to recreate the wheel - it is already in place and working well.

        I have found that the core, fundemental heart of both AA and Buddhism, is Love and Service. I try to focus on that.

        Jon L.
        Cary, North Carolina
        • Re: Buddhist AA/NA

          Wed, January 3, 2007 - 6:49 AM
          The simple things; they all seem complicated..

          tAs GD pointed out, there are many ways...... to practice step 11. I thank my individual concept of an HP for those opportunites to get together after meetings and share tools.
          There are times when I study what the old timers (Bill W. comes to mind...) did. As with real time meetings, I take what I like..and leave the rest.

          I'd like to request participants in this Tribe utilize the "I" statement protocol and share E S and H accordingly....else you won't see "Me" here much anymore.....
  • Re: Buddhist AA/NA

    Wed, January 3, 2007 - 11:50 AM
    Newcomers may be desperate and inexperienced in the 12 step program culture, but they are by no means stupid (generally speaking that is). It does not take very much attendance at all to pick up from the rituallized indoctrinations that these type of Morpho-Steps are not the officially sactioned program wording.

    It is purely annecdotal to say that desperate newcomers will be relapsing because they saw an alternative point of view. Newcomers are relapsing, period. The faces in the rooms turn over about 75%-85% every year. There is the core of "old timers" that are still there, and the rest are faces I will never see again.

    There is no harm in someone writing up their version or interpretation or alternate wording of the steps. It is not increasing or decreasing the number of people who find recovery in any measurable way that could be considered statistically significant. I could find you more people who have never taken to the program who will sight the fact that the steps mention God, and that they felt pushed away as a result.

    Let the principles manifest in whatever symbologies our pattern driven and preceptively unreliable minds can handle. That's what I say.

    Thanks
    Pigeon

    Tune into more rediculous semifactual program analysis at:
    www.pigeonhole.wordpress.com
  • Re: Buddhist AA/NA

    Fri, January 5, 2007 - 3:49 PM
    I've practiced Soto Zen for a fair portion of my life now and only recently started going to AA meetings. One of the initial reasons I was reluctant to go was because of the Judeo/Christian roots in AA. I felt it might have been disingenuous to attend and disruptive to those who can embrace AA as it is. However, when I realized I couldn't solve the problem on my own, I didn't know where else to turn to.

    I'm not so sure the way to go about "Buddhist AA" is by modifying it. If it works "as is," leave it be. It's not my place to go rooting around in the fundamentals of something like AA, but to find how I can make it work for me in its current form. I'm vegetarian, but when I'm in another's home, I'll eat what's offered to me. This especially makes sense in the Soto tradition.

    Buddhists have plenty to offer in these groups, however, and I wouldn't shy away from attending one. I'm pretty sure you'd be astonished by what could happen. Myself, I was in tears.

    When it came to "storytime," I raised my hand and decided to offer my story. I'm a bit of a nervous person and have always toted my beads around in my bag for when I get fidgety. Because I didn't know how else to explain my position, I just started talking about them, the symbolism and what they meant. As I did, why I [i]should[/i] be there became increasingly apparent.

    I'll summarize.

    "These are the 108 beads that are used to count during meditation. Each one can represent a number of different things depending on what I'm doing. At the end of these beads is a tassle. This tassle represents the roots of a lotus flower, the same flower Shakimuni Buddha is usually depicted as sitting on weightlessly. The lotus roots come from the mud of pain and suffering, yet it becomes a beautiful flower, and on top of that flower sits Shakimuni Buddha. Even in the darkest of times, this beautiful flower can grow."

    "Originally, I was somewhat reluctant to come here because, with America being primarily Judeo/Christian, and with myself being Buddhist, but I didn't know where to go. After sitting on it for a while and after I realized I couldn't do this alone, I didn't know where else to turn. But then I thought to myself, hey, I have a pretty interesting story to tell and perhaps it would contribute to your group."

    "Eventually, when things really began to suck, I started to think of this more and more as an obligation than anything else. You see, what's going on in my life right now hurts and I can't wish it on anyone. If someone in my position can take comfort in what I have to offer, I have an obligation to provide it, both from a religious perspective, but also from a people perspective that has nothing to do with the religious beliefs of anyone and everything to do with plain old compassion. I also have an obligation to my family who loves me, but most importantly, myself. And just as someone might take comfort in my story, I hope that someone else would hold out a hand to help me when I can't do it alone. I guess all of our lotus seeds just need to be watered."

    Then the tears really started going.

    We do have a role (and a very important one) in AA as-is, just not in the ordinary fashion.
    • Re: Buddhist AA/NA

      Sat, January 6, 2007 - 6:58 PM
      Also, if you sit zazen (just sitting meditation) ever or dabble in other forms of meditation, you can be a HUGE resource to local AA groups if they lack that outlet.

      I mentioned that I use a few meditation techniques specifically for addiction and I people flocked to me after the meeting asking me if I could teach them. It felt really funny to have a few huge biker dudes asking me if they could meditate with me.
    • Re: Buddhist AA/NA

      Tue, April 24, 2007 - 1:25 AM
      Hey, Bennett, AA was founded by a guy who was a spiritual seeker first, and only a Christian after that. I'm not bullshitting you to make you feel better. There's great reading for you if you are interested. Bill Wilson was a mystic.

      Good to have you as a part of AA. Buddhism and the 12 steps have a lot in common. I am visualizing the Medicine Buddha, and I smile thinking that he must be the dharma protector of AA.

      Take good care, and I hope that this message finds you well. Dan

      PS: Check out my blog some time @ vajrasurfers.blogspot.com/
  • Re: Buddhist AA/NA

    Sun, April 22, 2007 - 8:04 PM
    This is really a great post for someone who is more of a 'Universal Spiritualist' (or something like that) and has tremendous difficulty with the Christian perspective of the 12 steps. I would like to repost this in the future, with permission.

    Thanks
  • Re: Buddhist AA/NA

    Tue, April 24, 2007 - 1:17 AM
    I'm having no problem with this. As alcoholics/addicts, we work the 12 steps of AA/NA. Why would we ever give these up? I wouldn't, at least me. But I enjoy having this Buddhist take on the 12 steps. For me, it's not a problem, because attending to my sobriety always trumps my other essential spiritual practices.

    Check out my take on sobriety and spirituality at vajrasurfers.blogspot.com/. Dan
  • Re: Buddhist AA/NA

    Thu, May 24, 2007 - 11:53 AM
    Thank you so much for taking the time to write your perspective on the 12 steps. I have been a member of AA for almost two years, and have been sober for 1 yr and 9 months. Anyway, right now I am struggling with parts of AA- not so much the principles- because i believe, as with any organized religion, that I can interpret the ideas in such a way that works for me.

    But what I hear in the rooms, and the regular unsolicited advice I receive are things I struggle with. I am still trying to learn "take what you want and leave the rest" and establishing boundaries- so that's my own thing, but I also feel isolated in my perspective on AA, and feel that I am judged when I share my views, and am told that it is my "disease talking" and that I just think i am "terminally unique."

    AA has helped me get sober and get to where I am now, and I am forever grateful. I will continue to go to AA because it helps me to have friends who have similar pasts, face similar struggles now, and just to be around people who are also staying sober and trying to better themselves and heal from painful cycles of thinking and their pasts.

    But I also have been very drawn to Buddhist ideas, and so your revision is helpful to me to get thinking about how I want AA to fit into my life.

    Peace
    Meagan
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    Re: Buddhist AA/NA

    Mon, July 16, 2007 - 3:19 PM
    Thanks for your post.

    Early on in our history, AA made its way to Japan. I remember reading of some concerns that our early members had about how a group of people who were primarily Buddhist would deal with a higher power. They did work it out ... don't know exactly how, but it would be interesting to find out. In any case, I don't think they had to change the 12 steps, although they probably did have to translate them into their own understanding.

    The entire notion of "skillful means" has been very helpful for me. Although the term first appeared (for me) from the Dalai Lama, in terms of taking action, I've yet to see a group of people apply that concept to the extent that my AA brethren do.

    Take Care,
    Troy

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